My Family and I or Me and My Family
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| Posted: Tuesday, April 30, 2019 v:02:02 AM |
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Is in that location any difference in meaning between the two?
"My family unit and I"
"My family and me"
or is "My family and me" unacceptable?
| Posted: Tuesday, April 30, 2019 five:06:44 AM |
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Hi blodybeef.
Oddly (in this sentence) "my family and me" is right.
"My family and I" is incorrect.
The unproblematic dominion is "Remove the other people and see which is correct."
(My family and) I went on holiday.
Could y'all take a moving-picture show of (my family and) me?
| Posted: Tuesday, April 30, 2019 five:twenty:09 AM |
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The trouble is the education that 'me is wrong and I is right' gets taken to heart, so people apply it as a stock-still phrase regardless of its function in the judgement. And equally drago says, accept that away and information technology is uncomplicated in this instance to run across what it should be.
But that is fine - language is messy, some phrases naturally get fixed, and English language case endings are such a niche area restricted to personal pronouns that it is no wonder they go a bit of a battering.
It is just sorry that some people were ever made to feel inferior or uneducated for allegedly proverb the incorrect thing.
| Posted: Tuesday, April 30, 2019 5:54:42 AM |
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Note the preposition "of". A preposition takes an object pronoun. The phrase "my family and I" is used when information technology is performance as the 'subject'.
| Posted: Tuesday, April 30, 2019 six:28:28 AM |
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thar wrote:
The trouble is the teaching that 'me is incorrect and I is right' gets taken to eye, so people utilise it equally a fixed phrase regardless of its office in the sentence. And as drago says, take that abroad and information technology is simple in this case to see what it should exist.
But that is fine - linguistic communication is messy, some phrases naturally become fixed, and English case endings are such a niche area restricted to personal pronouns that it is no wonder they get a chip of a battering.
"It is but sad that some people were ever fabricated to experience inferior or uneducated for allegedly proverb the wrong thing."
So very true, thar. In fact information technology was the 'superior' ones that were uneducated in good manners and grace. In Glasgow, when I was young, nosotros were bullied into using our 'School English' when speaking to 'polite adults'. We were persuaded that our Glasgow dialect was slang and scruffy, therefore nosotros were too.
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jacobusmaximus wrote:
In fact it was the 'superior' ones that were uneducated in expert manners and grace. In Glasgow, when I was immature, we were bullied into using our 'School English' when speaking to 'polite adults'. We were persuaded that our Glasgow dialect was slang and scruffy, therefore we were too.
Yer - common and vulgar!
"Don't play with those Weegies - they're common!"
| Posted: Tuesday, Apr 30, 2019 vii:42:35 AM |
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Drag0nspeaker wrote:
jacobusmaximus wrote:
In fact it was the 'superior' ones that were uneducated in good manners and grace. In Glasgow, when I was young, we were bullied into using our 'Schoolhouse English' when speaking to 'polite adults'. Nosotros were persuaded that our Glasgow dialect was slang and scruffy, therefore we were too.
Yer - common and vulgar!
"Don't play with those Weegies - they're mutual!"
Common as muck, actually.
| Posted: Tuesday, Apr xxx, 2019 8:05:59 AM |
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jacobusmaximus wrote:
Common as muck, actually.
Just - "Where there'due south muck, there's brass."
| Posted: Tuesday, Apr thirty, 2019 8:13:42 AM |
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Thanks all.
Dear Drago ,
I ever think simpler mode is the all-time option.
Quote:
The unproblematic rule is "Remove the other people and see which is right."
(The simplest pick? Not and then much 
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Beloved Thar ,
Quote:
Information technology is merely sad that some people were ever fabricated to feel inferior or uneducated for allegedly saying the wrong matter.
I experience what you sayin'.
| Posted: Tuesday, April thirty, 2019 12:22:37 PM |
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Blodybeef wrote: Is in that location whatsoever divergence in pregnant between the ii? "My family and I" or is "My family and me" unacceptable?
"My family and me"
The apply of "I" has become a mutual hypergrammaticalization (the overapplication of a grammatical rule). It should be "I" but when the subject of a judgement (or amanuensis of a sentence, depending how you learned grammar). Some people think "I" sounds more than intelligent, merely that is true only if the listener doesn't know the grammar. Then, it sounds like someone trying to be smarter than they actually are. Or it tin sound like the language of a child.
Drag0nspeaker'due south rule is a expert one. In "Me and my sister went to the zoo", since you wouldn't say "Me went to the zoo", and so me and my sister didn't get to the zoo, either.
| Posted: Tuesday, April xxx, 2019 1:22:22 PM |
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Ah, but what if you did?
At what point does 'everybody says it' make it a fact of the linguistic communication as spoken?
In that location is hypercorrection that 'my family and I' is always the correct affair to say, which is not truthful. Merely as, it does seem that English uses its personal pronouns in a fixed phrase in a unlike way from single discipline.
The saw me.
They saw me and my family unit.
They saw u.s.a..
I go.
Me and my family go. /My family and I get
Nosotros go.
'Me and my family' becomes a stock-still phrase where the personal pronoun doesn't modify. And that makes sense to people speaking a language where you lot don't add instance endings on to every verb.
Information technology has already happened with 'who/whom'.
I think the majority of people would say
Who did not run into?
non
Whom did you see?
or
Who is the film of?
not
Of whom is the movie?
I would only utilise 'whom' if information technology is immediately preceded past a preposition.
Perhaps the same sort of thing works here - information technology is fine so long every bit y'all don't disjoint it with an object pronoun with the verb.
Me and my family unit become
not
My family and me go
| Posted: Wednesday, May ane, 2019 ii:thirty:56 AM |
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The original promotion photo for
"Me and my shadow walking down the avenue".
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Frank Sinatra and Sammy Davis Jr.
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Which ane is the correct sentence and why?
"my family and me are covered"
or
"my family and I are covered?"
| Posted: Saturday, May 15, 2021 vii:01:11 PM |
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alkojo wrote:
Which 1 is the correct sentence and why?
"my family and me are covered"
or
"my family and I are covered?"
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Note the use of coordinating conjunction "and". Information technology implies that you can dissever the sentence into 2 sentences. If you lot split the get-go sentence, yous get:
- "My family unit is covered" (right) and "Me is covered" (incorrect).
In "me is covered", "me" is the subject of the verb "is", Its use is conspicuously wrong. Its correct version is " I am covered ". When you lot combine "My family is covered" and " I am covered " yous go " My family unit and I are covered " (is + am = are) .
Your 2d sentence is correct.
| Posted: Sunday, May 16, 2021 1:58:31 AM |
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Blodybeef wrote:
Is there any divergence in meaning between the two?
"My family and I"
"My family and me"
or is "My family and me" unacceptable?
Howdy Blodybeef ,
But my two cents.
Could you accept a flick of my family and me?
Substitute "my family and me" with a pronoun, in this example an object pronoun considering we already have the subject pronoun "you" in the question.
If it fits, and then you are using the correct pronoun, and the resulting judgement uses "united states":
Could you take a movie of us?
Information technology's imposible to use "I" in that question because then you can't substitute information technology with "us", tin you?
The same dominion works for the subject pronoun.
My family and I are going on vacation.
We are going on vacation.
Once again if information technology fits, so you are using the right pronoun.
Though, permit'due south wait for the native speakers to right or confirm that.
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